Dialogues from Beyond the Grave – Evocation – Marcos, the Repentant Spirit

Paulo Degering R Jr
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At the previous meeting, the group had some questions about healing. It was decided that we would ask the good spirits to help us with our doubts. A spirit came spontaneously to answer these questions. At the end, we asked him what he needed. He told us he needed prayers because he had made many mistakes and regretted them after his last incarnation. We prayed to him, and he said goodbye.

In this meeting, after preparing some questions, we decided to call on you to better understand your situation. 

Here is the communication. 

Evocation. 

1. We want to welcome you to our group, dear brother, with all affection. We want to talk to you, to learn, to educate ourselves, and, if possible, to help you with something you need and for you to help us with something we need. Our intention is very legitimate, and we will not judge you. We are here to talk as friends, as brothers.

A: I appreciate your prayers for me. They were very helpful.

2. Friend, could you tell us what was your motivation for communicating with us last time?

A: Just the need for prayer. People forget about me.

Note: This isn't the first time we've seen a Spirit lament this. Indeed, no one wants to be forgotten, but the Spiritist Movement, absent from the studies of Spiritist science, no longer practices evocations due to various false ideas. It stops helping and learning, and such is the dominance of untruths that some go so far as to not praying for the Spirit, believing that this would be a hindrance. In this sense, large channels, so-called Spiritists, but also ignorant of Spiritism, collaborate in the dissemination of these false ideas.

3. What happened to make them forget about you?

A: It's been a long time since I passed away. Those I loved are no longer physical bodies. And I couldn't find them anywhere. Today, through your prayers, I can visualize those who were with me in my physical life. This is comforting.

4. So you mean to say that until they went to their spiritual homeland you had no contact with them?

A: No. I tried. But they wouldn't listen to me.

5. And when you saw them, what was it like, did they come, did they contact you, or did you contact them? What was it like?

A: They. They arrived. My wife, my mother, my father. My father Alberto, my mother Eliza, my wife Helena.

6. And your name?

A: Marcos.

7. Marcos. You said last time that you regretted the things you had done. We don't quite understand what happened, so if you feel free, can you tell us what happened? It would be interesting because we could understand you better and we could learn more.

A: There was a lot of fighting. Money. Greed. I robbed many people. I put my family in a bad situation. They suffered because of me. I left them to fend for themselves because of money.

8. And you were before all of them? Did you pass away before all of them?

A. Yes. It was an accident. I have trouble remembering.

9. It's okay, brother. If you feel like talking, Marcos, you can. We're not forcing you, it's okay. When did you enter? When did you realize you had died, that you had passed away? And how did you feel?

A: Alone. I had the darkness.

Note: Here we notice how necessary it is to ask objective questions, one at a time. This isn't the first time we've noticed the Spirit focusing only on the last question.

10. So the environment you were in, you couldn't decipher, everything was dark.

A: No. It is. It was dark. I couldn't see, I couldn't see anyone.

Note: this fact, which we were unable to delve into further at the time, reminded us of the article “The Spirit of a Damned Man” in the Spiritist Magazine of February 1860.

11. And how did you manage to get out of that darkness? What was that process like? That it was an achievement, right? That you achieved it, Marcos? If you'll allow me to call you that, right? Allow M. and I to call you that.

A: Yes. Yes, it was.

Note: The interlocutor asked several questions. The Spirit focused on a simple answer.

12. How did you manage to free yourself from this? What was it like?

A. I saw first. I didn't see, I heard some voices. I heard my wife's crying, my father's lamentations, but my mother's love... My mother began to appear to me. And it was then that I began to understand what had happened.

13. Marcos, did you hear your mother praying for you?

A: Yes. She called my name and she prayed.

14. Just as you listened to our prayers, did you listen to your mother's prayers or was it different?

A: It was different. She had and still has a love that I don't know how to understand.. It's grand. She made me see a little of the light from where she is. It moved me. So I listened.

Note: This probably has a lot to do with spiritual magnetism. Your mother's spirit has a deeper connection with him, which should make it easier for him to register her. This is how those who have a greater connection with certain individuals will have a greater capacity, even in the physical world, to assist them with prayers and dialogue in overcoming difficulties, returning to goodness, etc.

15. From these prayers of your mother?

A: Yes.

16. During your mother's prayers, you began to feel more comfortable. And then you were able to better see your companions around you? How was it? Could you explain this part better, Marcos? How did you overcome all of this?

A: Yes. I don't know if I've gotten over it. I still feel guilty.

17. Yes, but you've already taken a big step, haven't you?

A. Yes. I still feel a lot of guilt, but with that love, she opened a path for me, and the darkness started to leave, it started to go away. She showed me where I was and what I had to do.

18. Can you be a little more specific about what you said, what I "had to do"? How did she instruct you, what were her instructions?

A: Ask God for opportunities to grow. Ask God to show me how to reach Him. I saw other spirits approaching me, calming me, and telling me how to become a better person. I am seeking forgiveness from those I have harmed. I'm trying to forgive myself for the mistakes I've made. Every day some spirit approaches me and encourages me, shows me what forgiveness is like. He takes me to different places, where I can see and feel what love is and what forgiveness is..

Note: This is not the only Spirit who speaks to us about the idea that in the Spiritual world they learn by example, and not by readings. They are led to follow other cases, to assist and be useful. This is the reality of the Spiritist world.

19. This has helped you, these “visions,” and these “hearings,” have helped you understand better.

A: Yes, yes. But I'm not ready yet. I still need more faith, maybe.

20. The conversation you, Marcos, had with us last time and this one you had now is the first time you have been able to talk in a meeting like ours, a mediumistic meeting?

A: Yes, yes.

21. In this disincarnation of yours?

A: Yes. I didn't know what that was like.

22. Who brought him to us?


A: The spirit that accompanies me. I think… I think he is always here with you.

23. Yes. Who? And now he's here with us too?

A. He knows everyone.

24. How many are there, Marcos?

A: The one that accompanies me. There are 3 more... 4. But there are others too. The 4 that have the most light are.

25. I wanted to understand, my brother Marcos, in what environment you were while you were unable to see the light, do you remember?

A: It's space! Big, but it's dark.

26. Were you unable to see any region, any house, any place?

A: No. No. Just dark, just darkness.

27. Brother! Marcos! In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I would like to thank you for the message, and may the good spirits always guide you. May you always feel welcomed here in this space of ours, and may you be able to forgive yourself, because the most important thing is to forgive yourself for the things you've done. Oh, I would like to know if you have anything else to say to us for our instruction, for our better understanding of the doctrine, or so that we can help you better or even more.

A: I just want to say thank you for your prayers and for the opportunity to be here, for your hospitality, for not judging me for what I did. And they say that you are gathered here and that more messages will come soon—messages, I think. Instructions. But they pray for you too and are with you. I need to go.

NOTE: The group is in a development phase, and returning to this practice is a novelty for mediums from the Spiritist Movement, which does not engage in dialogue with spirits. This causes them certain difficulties, which will be overcome with time and practice. For this reason, inaccuracies are normal, but since the dialogue contains nothing that merits special attention beyond the analysis we have already conducted, we present it with the aim of encouraging others to resume these dialogues.

Our group meets online, via video, each from their own homes.

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