{"id":6159,"date":"2022-05-10T15:01:23","date_gmt":"2022-05-10T18:01:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/?p=6159"},"modified":"2023-10-14T20:03:18","modified_gmt":"2023-10-14T23:03:18","slug":"the-drum-of-beresine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/en\/artigos\/estudos-da-revista-espirita\/o-tambor-de-beresina\/","title":{"rendered":"The Spirit of a soldier killed in war: the Drummer of Beresina"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pdfprnt-buttons pdfprnt-buttons-post pdfprnt-top-right\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6159?print=pdf\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-pdf\" target=\"_blank\" ><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/pdf.png\" alt=\"image_pdf\" title=\"View PDF\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 32px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 32\/32;\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6159?print=print\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-print\" target=\"_blank\" ><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/print.png\" alt=\"image_print\" title=\"Print Content\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 32px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 32\/32;\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p><strong>Perhaps this is one of the most interesting reported communications of the year 1858, <\/strong>because it is the Spirit of a soldier killed in war, a Spirit with an appearance of tranquility and even kindness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It happened like this: \u201cHaving gathered in our house some people with the purpose of verifying certain manifestations, in several sessions the following facts were produced: a Spirit manifested by blows, not beaten by the table foot, but in the very texture of the table. table.&quot; Then Kardec goes on to say that in addition to the answers to several yes and no questions, the blows played marches, imitated rifle fire, something completely unusual. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As they listened, they observed that the Spirit had a certain predilection for the drum roll.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"236\" height=\"322\" src=\"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/eb93d55725a659da691d2cd1a41586a2-napoleon.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/eb93d55725a659da691d2cd1a41586a2-napoleon.jpg 236w, https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/eb93d55725a659da691d2cd1a41586a2-napoleon-220x300.jpg 220w, https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/eb93d55725a659da691d2cd1a41586a2-napoleon-9x12.jpg 9w, https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/eb93d55725a659da691d2cd1a41586a2-napoleon-150x205.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 236px) 100vw, 236px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Photo Internet: https:\/\/i.pinimg.com\/236x\/eb\/93\/d5\/eb93d55725a659da691d2cd1a41586a2\u2013napoleon.jpg?nii=t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In addition to a special medium of physical influence, a psychograph was present. Because of that, they got the conversation very explicit, like name, place of birth, date of death, etc. Spontaneous communication started like this: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1 \u2013 Write anything, whatever you want. <em>\u2013 Ran plan plan, ran, plan, plan.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2 \u2013 Why did you write this? <em>\u2013 I was a drummer.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He said he died in a battle, and he still takes on that drum beater characteristic, that&#039;s why he did those marching effects. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>16- Are you reincarnated?<em> - No, because I come to talk to you.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>17- Why do you manifest yourself by blows, without you being called? <em><strong>\u2013 It is necessary to make noise for those whose hearts believe nothing.<\/strong> If you don&#039;t have enough, I will give you even more.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"nota has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background\"><strong>Observation:<\/strong> He demonstrates a certain moral superiority. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>18 \u2013 Is it your own will that you came to knock, or did another spirit force you to do so? <em>\u2014 I come of my own accord; there is another, whom you call Truth, who can force me to do this too. But I&#039;ve wanted to come for a long time.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>19 \u2013 For what purpose did you want to come? \u2013 <em>To converse with you; it was what I wanted; But there was something that stopped me. I was forced by a familiar spirit in the house, who urged me to make myself useful to people who asked me questions. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>19.1 \u2013 Does this Spirit, then, have a lot of power, since it commands other Spirits?<em>  \u2014 More than you can imagine, and he uses it only for good.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"nota has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background\">Note: Spirits are always assisted. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>22- Which existence do you prefer: the current one or the terrestrial one? <em>\u2013 I prefer the existence of the Spirit to that of the body.<\/em> <em>Because we are much better off than on Earth. Earth is a purgatory; all the time I lived there, I always wanted death.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>25 \u2013 Would you be satisfied if you had a new bodily existence? <em>\u2013 Yes, because I know that I must elevate myself.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>26 \u2013 Who told you that? <em>\u2013 I know it well.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>27 \u2013 Will you reincarnate soon?<em> - I don&#039;t know.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From question 28 onwards,   <strong>for the first time in RE,<\/strong> those present ask the manifesting Spirit about other Spirits in Erraticity:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>28. \u2500 Do you see other spirits around you? \u2500 Yes, many.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>29. \u2500 How do you know they are spirits? \u2500 Among us, we see ourselves as we are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>30. \u2500 How do you see them? \u2500 As spirits can be seen, but not through the eyes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>31. \u2500 And you, in what form are you here? \u2500 Under what I had when I was alive, that is, as a drum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>32. \u2500 And do you see the other spirits with the forms they had in life?&nbsp;<strong>\u2500 No. We don&#039;t take on an appearance until we are evoked. Other than that, we are formless.<\/strong><\/p>\n<cite>RE July 1858<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"destaque has-background\" style=\"background-color:#ff8f8f\"><strong>See how interesting: He sees the other Spirits around him without any form! He is not an advanced Spirit, but outside of the moment they are evoked, in erraticity, Spirits DO NOT have a form. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Spirits have no eyes, no ears, no touch... because they have no need in the spiritual plane for this type of manifestation. \u201cOur form is only apparent,\u201d says the drum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The communication follows with questions about the manifestation of the knocking on the table, in which he says that he is beside her, that he does not get inside her.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>37-How do you produce the noises you make heard? <em>\u2013 I believe it is through a kind of concentration of our strength.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>38 \u2013 Could you explain to us the way in which the different noises that you imitate are produced, the scratches, for example? <em>- I wouldn&#039;t know much about the nature of the<br>noises; it&#039;s hard to explain. I know I scratch, but I can&#039;t explain how I make that noise you call scratching.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Then he was asked what he depended on to lift a table, to which he replied:<em> \u2013 It depends on me, because I use the medium as an instrument.<\/em> <em>And besides, it has to be with specific mediums<\/em>, which I am attracted to.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>48 \u2013 What do you occupy yourself with in your existence as a Spirit, considering that you shouldn&#039;t spend all your time just knocking? <em>\u2013 I often have missions to fulfill; we must<br>obey superior orders and, above all, do good to human beings.<br>humans who are under our influence<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>49 \u2013 Certainly your earthly life was not free of faults; do you recognize them now? <em><strong>- Yes; and for that reason I expiate them, remaining stationary among the inferior spirits; I will only be able to purify myself enough when I take another body.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"nota has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background\">OBSERVATION: Here recognition of their faults and repentance is evident.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>55 \u2013 Are you always on Earth, in your spiritual existence? \u2013 Most often in space.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>56 \u2013 Do you sometimes go to other worlds, that is, to other globes? \u2013 Not to the more perfect ones, but to the inferior worlds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>57 \u2013 Do you sometimes enjoy seeing and hearing what men do?  <em>- No; however, I sometimes pity them.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>65 \u2013 Were you immediately aware of your new existence? <strong>\u2013 No, but I no longer felt cold.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n<cite>RE July 1858<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"nota has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background\">NOTE: He was no longer aware of his body.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"destaque has-background\" style=\"background-color:#ffc936\"><strong>KARDEC&#039;S COMMENT ON THE COMMUNICATION:  <\/strong>\u2013 Little advanced in the spiritist hierarchy, as can be seen, the Spirit of the Drum himself recognized his inferiority. Your knowledge is limited; but he has good sense, praiseworthy feelings, and benevolence. As a Spirit, his mission lacked meaning, as he played the role of a Spirit beater to call unbelievers to faith; yet, even in the theater, cannot the humble attire of a partner involve an honest heart? His answers have the simplicity of ignorance; however, due to the fact that they do not have the elevation of the philosophical language of the superior spirits, they are nevertheless less instructive, especially for the study of spiritist customs, if we can express it that way. <strong>It is only by studying all the classes of this world that awaits us that we can get to know it and mark out in it, in some way, in advance, the place that each one of us will be given to occupy. Seeing the situation that, by their vices and virtues, created men, our equals here on Earth, we feel encouraged to elevate ourselves as quickly as possible from this life: it is the example next to the theory. In order to know something well, and to form an idea of it free from illusions, it is necessary to dissect it in all its aspects, just as the botanist cannot know the plant kingdom except by observing it from the humblest cryptogam, which the moss hides. , even the towering oak, which soars in the air.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-background-color\">\n\t\t\t  <div \n\t\t\t  \tclass = \"fb-comments\" \n\t\t\t  \tdata-href = \"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/en\/artigos\/estudos-da-revista-espirita\/o-tambor-de-beresina\/\"\n\t\t\t  \tdata-numposts = \"10\"\n\t\t\t  \tdata-lazy = \"true\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-colorscheme = \"light\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-order-by = \"social\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-mobile=\"true\">\n\t\t\t  <\/div><\/div>\n\t\t  <style>\n\t\t    .fb-background-color {\n\t\t\t\tbackground: #ffffff !important;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t.fb_iframe_widget_fluid_desktop iframe {\n\t\t\t    width: 100% !important;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t  <\/style>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Drum of Beresina is one of the most interesting communications reported in the RE of 1858. 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