{"id":4747,"date":"2021-12-05T12:08:08","date_gmt":"2021-12-05T15:08:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/?p=4747"},"modified":"2022-04-27T16:16:01","modified_gmt":"2022-04-27T19:16:01","slug":"4747","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.geolegadodeallankardec.com.br\/en\/artigos\/estudos-da-revista-espirita\/4747\/","title":{"rendered":"MEHMET \u2013 ALI, Ancient Pasha of Egypt (First Conversation)"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Mehmet-Ali, or Mohammed Ali, 1769 to 1849, was Viceroy of Egypt from 1805 to 1848, as Governor of the Ottoman Empire on behalf of the Sultan. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Considered as the founder of modern Egypt, he introduced major reforms in the country, among them: the construction of irrigation canals to better distribute the waters of the Nile River, construction of buildings, institution of new laws, taxes, modernization of the army, etc. It achieved considerable autonomy from the Ottoman Empire and also considerably extended its borders. More on Mehmet-Ali's life Click here<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Pasha Mehmet-Ali<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Pasha Mehmet-Ali had died about 10 years before this evocation, at the request of Kardec and his colleagues. He said he had come to instruct them. They asked for proofs that he was really the disembodied Spirit of Pach\u00e1, in which he replied saying that the Spirit reveals itself by his words, always. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

He said he was close to the medium Ermance Dufaux<\/a>. He \u201csettled\u201d into an empty chair. No one saw him. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Pasha said that he was unhappy (he used the term that he was disgraced), that he was in the condition of a wanderer, that he did not clearly remember his former existence as Mehmet-Ali\u2026 <\/p>\n\n\n\n

10. \u2500 Do you remember what you were in the existence before this one?<\/p>

\u2500 I was poor on Earth. I envied earthly grandeurs and went up to suffer.<\/p>

11. \u2500 If you can be reborn on Earth, which condition will you prefer?<\/p>

\u2500 The obscure: the duties are smaller.<\/p>

12. \u2500 What do you think now of the position you have occupied lately on Earth?<\/p>

\u2500 Pure vanity! I wanted to lead the men. Did I know how to lead myself?<\/p>

14. Public opinion appreciates what you have done for the civilization of Egypt and that is why it places you among the great princes. Are you satisfied with that?<\/p>

\u2500 What do I care? The opinion of men is the desert wind that lifts the dust<\/p>

15. \u2500 Do you see your descendants with pleasure following the same path? Do your efforts interest you?<\/p>

\u2500 Yes, because they aim at the common good.<\/p>

16. \u2013 However, you are accused of acts of great cruelty. Do you regret them now?<\/p>

\u2500 I atone for them.<\/p>

17. \u2500 Do you see those whom you ordered to be massacred?<\/p>

\u2500 Yes.<\/p>

18. \u2500 How do they feel about you?<\/p>

\u2500 Hatred and pity.<\/p>Spiritist Magazine April\/1858<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

The Spirit continues to give its opinions regarding the Muslim and Christian religions. In the view of this Spirit, the first was still very materialistic, while the second was higher. He even says that he considered that Mohammed distorted his mission, because he wanted to reign.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In Mehmet-ali's opinion, polygamy was one of the ties that still hold people back in barbarism; he also says that he understands that the slavery of women was not justifiable; he says that slavery only brutalizes man; <\/p>\n\n\n\n

He says that the Spiritist Doctrine was the Doctrine of the priests of ancient Egypt, that they received manifestations, had the same source as those received by Moses, as they were initiated by them. He went on to say that Moses wanted to reveal, while the Egyptian Priests only wanted to hide them. Still talking about religions, he added that all mother religions are linked together by almost invisible ties. They come from the same source, being sisters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This Spirit had memories of other very distant existences, claiming to have lived in the time of the pharaohs three times: as a priest (at the time of Sesostris, according to his memory), as a beggar and as a prince, the first being approximately 1900 years before Christ. He had said he had progressed slowly. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

48. Is it because you were a priest in those times that you were able to speak to us with knowledge of the ancient religion of the Egyptians?<\/p>

\u2500 Yes, but I'm not perfect enough to know everything. Others read the past like an open book.<\/p>Spiritist Magazine April\/1858<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

And so, apparently, Pach\u00e1 dodges Kardec's last questions, one about the reason for the construction of the pyramids and another that is not mentioned.<\/p>This evocation expresses a lot the sorrow of the Spirit who made an incarnation not very fruitful for his moral elevation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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